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I can see where some would call themselves a new species. Personally I like to think I've been blessed with additional skills. It really depends on your point of view. But then my family was very supportive of my gifts. But then, I suppose my family is also the sort to say this sort of thing is a right given to us by our heritage.

That's where it starts, but then it changes, it grows away from the ideals and feeds off the fear of those in control. The moment you mark a person as different, as other, it all goes downhill. It starts off as protection, and then it leads to oppression and bigotry.

I don't doubt you in that, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions after all. Instead a society where all people feel safe and have no reason to be against one another is more desirable.

Bit hard to rewrite genetic code isn't it? So wouldn't it be better to get an education and to learn not to be dangerous?

You don't know how it's going to change and grow. Maybe it'll be for the better. We have to do something. These monsters get away with murder and worse every year! But everyone's so worried about going on some list, and how it's going to lead to imaginary things that haven't happened yet.

This is about making people feel safe.

There might be a medicine that can help. Science can do a lot. And they're learning more every year. Or there might even be a mutation that can get rid of powers, we don't know. I believe we might find a cure.

It's different for me. I can't learn that stuff. And I don't want to!

I don't know, but I have an educated guess. History tends to repeat itself after all. As for people getting away with murder... that's everyone isn't it? Hundreds and thousands of people all over the world get away with murder, mutant or otherwise. Proper justice departments and law enforcement is what curbs that, not arbitrary lists of people because of something they can't control about themselves. And of course everyone's afraid of going on a list, that sort of action has never led to anything good.

I would rather people put their efforts into curing cancer. But I can assure you, the sort of thing you speak of is hardly any time soon. And I would rather that sort of thing wasn't pursued too much.

Why not? Most of these classes are simple basic education. History, literature, math... those are all important things to know. As for not being dangerous... wouldn't you just be a problem like what you want to wipe out? Maybe you should be euthanized?

Your whole point before was that people should make a society where they all feel safe and no one has a reason to be against the other, but like you said, history repeats itself. People will have wars. They'll fight over less than this. So there's going to be a war, and we have to be ready.

What are you talking about? In this country, we're on all kinds of lists. We have social security numbers. Almost everyone's listed. It won't be arbitrary. It will be identifying threats.

You don't know what people can do. Humans are amazing. They don't need to rely on some kind of special power to do great things. And it doesn't have anything to do with cancer research, because scientists don't just research one thing. They study everything. Researching curing mutations could lead to other discoveries, that's how science works. There are people with harmful mutations who want to be cured, but I guess you don't care about them.

I can't trust these people, so I don't trust their classes.

Maybe I should! What's wrong with that!

Which is why people should educate themselves and watch the signs so they dont repeat things.

Those lists and these lists are hardly the same. For one, your social security number doesnt say anything more than you are a citizen with the rights of a citizen. This list they propose is the gateway for taking away rights.

I know humans are amazing, I'm a product of amazing after all. But research takes time and money, splitting the focuse takes away from others. Not to mention using "cure" implies too much.

If thats the case I pitty you, I would never want to die, in fact I would rather be immortal.

That's right, and mutants with unnatural powers are going to use them to suppress people! Since that's what happened throughout history when people had too much power.

There's nothing that science doesn't research! And that's the way it should be, to increase human knowledge of everything. Of course they're going to research mutants. And it is a disorder and it should be cured.

[He's sure that's what his dad would have said!]

No one can live forever. No one should. It's part of life that we die. It's natural and right.

You're confusing physical power with political power.... Those in power are more to fear when power is left unchecked.

Do you understand how research works at all? Research is expensive, things must be prioritized and what is prioritized is usually up to the person funding it. For example I would prefer my companies research projects that are beneficial to me or can at least make back what the cost and plus some.

And yet our lives are short and change takes a long time. I would much rather live longer than natural to guide the world twards prosperity than leave a half finished job someone else will probably botch.

No, I'm not. They already have their own country. Things are changing. They're using their mutant powers to amass political strength.

I know how research works. OK not everyone has funding! There's all kinds of funding for all kinds of things, and researching the gene doesn't take away from cancer research. Sorry you don't like it, but it is important to research mutant genes. Lots of scientists think so, and they're doing it all the time.

It sounds like you're full of yourself. You're not better than other people.

A group has a country, I for one am Japanese and have no intention of ever not being so. Also a small country though gaining political strength is nothing compared to larger ones. But you could also say its a reaction to discrimination.

I agree it's important to understand, but there really s a finite to how much can be done in a period of time.

Depends on your view, economically I am, intellectually I am, social status wise I am. But peprsonally I don't think I am particularly. But I have a strong goal and a desire to see it through, it would be wrong to not do my best in pursuing it.

It's not the same as Japan or America at all. They formed a nation of mutants. And they have powerful weapons. They're clearly hostile toward humans.

How do you know how long they've been researching it? They've known about it for a while. They can come up with a cure. Like I said, humans can do anything.

My view is that you're not. It's good to see through your goals! But not everyone has good goals.

I imagine they're hostile towards anyone who is hostile towards them. Isn't it normal for most countries to have powerful weapons when they have potential threats? My point however was that Genosha isn't an example of mutants as a whole, they are simply a small group that sought their own independence. And really, with the recent news can you really blame them?

Because I'm involved in that sort of industry, things like that don't happen overnight. I'm not saying people aren't researching it, but I can assure you it's not enough to do anything quickly. Amd again, talking about it as a cure leads to more than just allowing those to be rid of troublesome mutations. I don't want someone telling me I'm sick and need a cure, I'm happy the way I am. Wording and how it's perceived is everything.

No not everyone does, which is why it's important for the good ones to be seen through! In fact I would say your current goal is rather bad. You should at least attend the classes to get a better idea of things. Maybe also read some journals to understand how science research works.

They were hostile before then. They murdered our president. I haven't forgotten that, and I never will.

It is a cure. A cure for a genetic disorder. I don't have a problem with my wording.

Don't patronize me. I know it's not going to happen overnight. Governments all over the world are funding research into the gene, it's one of today's most important issues! And it's only going to get more important. That's why the Friends of Humanity and other pro-human groups are lobbying Congress to devote more funding to the research!

Still, they are not the representatives of all mutants in this country, or even in the world.

But is it really a genetic disorder exactly? If you are healthy how can it be a disorder? Are all land creatures a genetic disorder for not living in the sea?

Which will take funding away from other fields that are more helpful for humanity. I don't understand this "pro-human" movement anyway. Aren't we all human to begin with? Just sounds like people afraid of anything different.

But I suppose if they make a distinct difference, such ideals as "all men created equal" and can start segregation with a clear conscious. After all, we are but inhuman creatures right? Something inhuman has no rights, so there's none to take away? They are sick inhuman creatures, why not cleanse the populous of them....

No! I won't accept that sort of thing, it's ugly and does nothing but cast the shadow of darkness to come.

I didn't say they were. I used them as an example of dangerous mutants.

I'm not healthy! Not everyone has beneficial mutations. Some of us are in pain and want to be cured. So I support studying the mutant gene and furthering the advancement of humanity's knowledge!

It is helpful to humanity. You really think we shouldn't research an important kind of genetics because you don't like it? And no, mutants aren't human.

Mutants have rights. They're protected by law.

Did I not just say it was a matter of terminology? Research is important, but in the right frame of mind. Helping those with a great burden put on them if such methods would be the best for their state.

I didn't say I was against the research I'm for it in fact, but not colored like this. And yes mutants are human, I am a product of my parents who have no mutation, I didn't spring forth from the spewing blood of a god or anything. If being born like anyone else makes me not human that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

And how long will that last with this division being forced?

And I said that's my terminology and I'm keeping it. The research is going to happen no matter what.

Mutants aren't human like wolves aren't dogs, they're related but different.

There's already a division! You denying it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And that will lead to problems.

Dogs are an evolution over hundreds and thousands of years. There is a point where they stop being wolves and become dogs, but the children of wolves are still wolves even if they're more passive. You can't deny the origin of someone, and trying to put them as other will, again as I said, lead to nothing but destruction.

Only because people are forcing the issue. If people simply accepted it as part of life now, there wouldn't be this kind of division. For example, people from Asia and Africa are no longer considered lesser races in the eyes of the west. Such stupid mindsets are gone now. Of course it should never have even been a thing to begin with.

A lot of things lead to problems. Even good things can.

I know about dogs, it was an example of two species that are similar but different. Dogs also can't read people's minds. If anything, mutants are more different from humans than dogs are from wolves.

Powerful mutants are murdering people, mutants and humans both. You just want us to do nothing about it? There is a difference, and they can do things humans can't. I'm facing reality, not ignoring it.

And that is why when we know something can potentially do so we should be responsible.

Wasn't a very good example, we have parents with no mutations, we have relatives we love and care about. Trying to force that kind of comparison is just removing people from their families and making them further away so it's more convenient to hate.

Not at all, but I want those individuals treated the same way as if they weren't mutants. People murder other people all the time, it has nothing to do with them being mutants or not. Also the fact that such criminals are like that, doesn't it make more sense to make sure you have those who can go against such things as allies? It would be the same method as any other. A bomb specialist, and one who specializes in mutant related crime. But we are all still human, it isn't an us versus them, it's a right vs wrong.

Ugh, forget the example, that's not what I meant. Species evolve, that's all. They change at some point, and sometimes it's a bigger change! Even some mutants call themselves a different species. It's not like I'm making it up.

It has nothing to do with not caring about your relatives, I don't even know where you got that. Of course I love my family!

No. They can't be. Because their powers set them apart and make them more of a threat. More difficult to catch, more difficult to contain. You can't apply the same rules to them, or people will keep dying! And you're right, we should have specialists. But humans can be specialists. Mutants have a clear conflict of interest!

Some do, but that doesn't make it so cut and dry. Species evolve and change, yes, but not in a single generation. Everyone is human, some have mutations, but that's all.

Again it's about being made into an "other" rather than part of the whole.

How do mutants have a conflict of interest? That's like saying normal people can't govern themselves because they're all normal!

That's your definition. It isn't mine. Plenty of people agree with me. Even scientists. Like you said, it's not all cut and dry.

If you're different, you're different. Why are you trying to act like mutants are the same? It's not about them having feelings or whatever you're saying. There are genetic and physical differences that have to be accounted for!

It's not like that at all. We're talking about specialists, not a government. Mutants will be reluctant to pursue and use anything that could be used against mutants, because it might be used against them.

Scientists being paid by whom?

Because physical differences don't mean anything in this conversation. If looking different physically made you an entirely different thing than the person next to you, we would be going back a hundred years with "Orientals" and "Negros", or just revive the Eugenics movement. Why not just go and follow An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races while you're at it?

Hardly. As long as the laws are just and people are treated fairly they will uphold the system that gives them comfort. If one mutant breaks the law, and another is part of the justice system they will pursue the criminal the same as any other, because that individual broke the law and the status quo. The only time you have the potential of what you state is when there is blatant inequality and there is a created sense of other.

Aren't these all concepts we learned long ago?

I don't know, why don't you go survey the scientists? All the information is out there. Maybe some scientists just come to conclusions you don't like. That doesn't mean they're wrong.

You can't compare people with different skin colors to people who can shoot lasers out of their eyes or freeze the blood in people's veins. I like how you always call us racists when race has nothing to do with it. Humans of all nations are human. Humans don't have wings or look like lizards.

But the laws aren't just and people aren't treated fairly. There's going to be mutant corruption, like there's already corruption. Mutants using their powers to oppress people who can't defend themselves. If we come up with something that can suppress powers, are the mutant "experts" really going to want to use it? No. Because it can be used on them.

I actually do know the percentages and generally where these sorts of research are being held you know. It was a rhetorical question.... I have several companies involved with pure research of the genetic kind after all, it's a major important topic to me.

[In fact she had a lot of research dedicated to mutant research when she found out she was one....]

It's because it's the same sort of thing. Back then people didn't consider other races "human" or if they did they figured out ways to make sure one was higher or better than another. This is the same thing. But since you want to continue being blind, perhaps moving on to physical differences will work better? Are those suffering from dwarfism human? After all they are also suffering from a type of mutation. Or what about Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome? By your definition they are not.

So mutant corruption is the only thing to worry about and not "human" corruption? What a biased and ridiculous statement.

There's nothing but ridiculous claims and ideas coming from you, it's sad that you're like this. All I can hope is you're at least seeing someone about these issues. Or maybe that one day you'll come to understand the other side and wake up from your dream land.

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